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  • #33852
    Don Foley
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    Hi Charles,

    I sowed Basil Sweet Genovese last weekend for indoor growing.
    I’m concerned I may have sown too deeply at 1.5cm in seed compost.
    I looked through your books but couldn’t see a reference to depth.
    I would appreciate your advice.

    Don.

    #33856
    charles
    Moderator

    Don yes, too deep, they are way down, probably having a good sleep!

    The info is in my books e.g. I just checked in the index of my Course Book for “sowing depth”, its p104,
    “Sow seeds shallow rather than deep… cover seeds with twice as much compost as the seeds are thin ( width not length)”.
    So the baseline is hardly anything on top – and I was looking at mine, also sown last weekend, they are emerging fastest at the sides where I sprinkled less compost. I think it would be best perhaps to cover them with none!

    If in doubt cover less, just be sure to water thoroughly at time of sowing.
    Even watering newly sown seeds pushes them down a bit into compost.

    #33858
    Don Foley
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    Thank you for this. I have the book but looked under Basil specifically for the info.
    Just sowed another batch.

    Don.

    #33865
    Don Foley
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    Just to follow up on this. I generally go with the instructions on the seed packet when sowing, adjusting only for the sowing dates to allow for my particular environment.
    On this particular packet of Basil seeds it did not specify a sowing depth but as I had also been sowing Tomato seeds that afternoon, and they had a sowing depth advised of 1.5cm, I figured as they were similar size seeds I would go with that figure. It did niggle me a bit which is why I turned to yourself.
    I have reread that chapter more closely since and will sow accordingly in future.
    But just to confirm, small seeds such as these are best sown with just a sprinkling of compost covering them?
    Are there any exceptions?

    Don.

    #33869
    charles
    Moderator

    I find that broad beans can go in deep, say 2in/5cm or more, but everything else I sow does better not too deep = what I say in the books, a dusting on top equivalent to twice the depth of the seed’s thinnest cross section.
    So lettuce is v thin and needs almost nothing on top, in fact mostly I simply leave it on the surface uncovered, but in the shade to stay moist until germinated.

    #33908
    plantmark
    Participant

    I always sow my Basil onto damp kitchen paper. Fold a piece in half and wet it. Sow the seed onto the paper, always gives a good germination rate so you dont need to allow much for non germination. I am still using seed that is 5 years old. Fold the paper over and place in a zip lock bag. Usually germinates in a couple of days and then I tranfer to plugs with tweezers after making a small indent in the compost and sprinkle with vermiculite. Then give the vermiculite a good spray to moisten.

    I have been doing the same with Parsnips but transferring to the growing bed when germinated.

    #33912
    bluebell
    Participant

    Hi Plantmark I have had problems getting basil to germinate in the past but appear to have cracked it this year by covering the tray – so I guess they not only need light but humidity too. Hence the success of your method.

    #33970
    plantmark
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    I recently sowed 20 seeds of Sunflower Teddy Bear in compost and only 3 germinated. I tried the other 20 in damp tissue and 17 out of 20 germinated. Its quite an interesting method to use for testing seed germination.

    I had poor results with T & M Spinach Medania with only 6% gemination in seed compost. Tried again in tissue and achieved 10% germination so I was confident in complaining to T & M . Clearly a poor batch of seed.

    #33975
    Rhys
    Participant

    I’ve got a tray of basil just germinating now and it seems to have started within 4 days with the lid on i.e. moisture retention.

    #34252
    Karen
    Participant

    Does this look normal? The 2 cotyledons are turning yellow, while the true leaves in the middle are still green. The variety is Sweet Genovese. Not sure if it´s the compost I am using as it has a fair bit of “woody bits” or if the compost is too rich for basil? Some of my other basil variety e.g. licorice is looking rather odd too…couldn’t get a proper picture with the lighting… will try tomorrow. Not sure if it´s because it is a different variety? My Corsica variety is purple in colour.

    #34256
    Don Foley
    Participant

    Hi Karen,

    They look exactly like mine though the colour rendering in your pics is not that great.
    If I remember from last year the cotyledons actually went white on mine as the seedling grew before they fell off.

    Don.

    #34259
    charles
    Moderator

    Yes I reckon its poor compost, maybe the woody bits pulling nitrogen before plants can.
    Yellowing cotyledons tell of a plant running out of food for growth. You may have some poor compost, there is a lot around!
    Maybe pot them into a good compost.
    Also basil seedlings need little water so don’t overdo that.

    #34260
    Karen
    Participant

    Thanks Don, that gives me a little bit of hope. Fingers crossed.

    Hey Charles, I was thinking that too… however, some of my other plants are on the same brand of compost and they seem fine. I am not sure if it was the same bag of compost. Not sure how consistent their mix is. The problem in Germany is that there aren’t many choices and most of them aren’t organic (Bio) compost. The one am using is supposedly peat free hence they had more woody bits and more brown than the usual black. I have had to use some non-organic ones to test how effective they are too. I am making comparisons and observations from the different brands.

    I might have also over-watered them, will ease back and monitor them. I think I am gonna cry if I have to repot over 450 basil seedlings. 🙁 I may resort to feeding them with comfrey/nettle tea. I am just going to give it another day or 2 as it is definitely warming up and see if there´s any improvement on the seedlings.

    #34547
    Karen
    Participant

    Do these leaves look burnt or look like sunscald? Strange that only this variety is only affected. It looks similar to Sweet Genovese, but this a Naples variety (translated from a German word).

    #34551
    plantmark
    Participant

    Karen,
    My Sweet Genovase are looking similar on my return after having been away for a week. I think it may be sun scorch but not certain.

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