scorzonera and cima di rapa

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  • #35026

    Anonymous

    Hello Charles and fellow gardeners

    Could you advise on growing scorzonera? Is it possible to sow in modules or best sown direct?

    What would be your best sowing dates for cima di rapa (sprouting turnip tops)?

    #35027

    Leif
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    I’m sure Charles will give you a more informed opinion, but my understanding is that long rooted veggies cannot be grown in modules, and that includes scorzonera. They send down long tap roots, and the module blocks the root. So sadly you need to sow in situ.

    That said, I have experimented with carrots in deep modules, and this year I have some touchon carrots in 5″ deep modules. Scorzonera is very long, but I suppose you could grow one in a drain pipe filled with soil …

    My problem is stony clay soil, and one apporach is to use a broken spade handle to make a deep hole, fill with compost, then plant the seed, thereby avoiding the root forking, and giving the veggy a good start in life.

    #35030

    charles
    Moderator

    Its a good answer Leif.
    No rush to sow Cima di Rapa, it thrives in the damp coolness of autumn so August is good for sowing it, along with salad rocket and most oriental veg.

    #35034

    Anonymous

    That’s great! That you both for your answers.

    #35038

    Leif
    Participant

    Thanks Charles. I’ll sow some Pak Choi this August.

    #35062

    lizcolvin
    Participant

    I grow scorzonera, mainly because I tried it and salsify, and scorzonera has the enormous advantage of being perennial, and after two years has decent roots, while salsify is annual and after one year unimpressive. I sow direct in spring, and eat it the winter after next – very delicious with cream, garlic and parmesan (but then what isn’t)

    #35158

    bobandcogs
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    … along the same lines; after years and years of almost zero germination of parsnip seed I followed the advice of a friend and sowed into compost packed toilet rolls – in the greenhouse. germination was 100%. Following the advice, I planted out almost immediately to ensure that the long root hadn’t reached the bottom of the compost and was damaged in the moving / planting. The result was startling. At RHS Rosemoor last year I noticed that they had done the same with carrots (altho’ I’m fairly certain they’d be using a branded tube rather than a toilet roll inner!) This should work for scorzonera ….

    #35160

    Anonymous

    That’s very interesting to know it is actually perennial. I will try leaving some in the ground for longer if the results are not satisfactory by the end of the season.
    I will try the toilet method as well as direct sowing as I am always a bit worried about all the possible trouble a little seed/ seedling can get into when sown direct!
    Thank you both! Very informative and I certainly plan to follow the advice.

    #35161

    bobandcogs
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    …. and back to the scorzonera: in Italy it’s grown as a perennial for its leaves ….. a valuable salad leaf in the spring, apparently.

    I haven’t yet tried it …… but I’m plucking up the courage!

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