Hi Charles, thanks for the advice. I did try replying earlier but think I must have done something wrong. I have another couple of questions, any idea how far a load of manure, approx ten tonnes, will cover at 6″? That’s the size of the local farmers trailer. Also, do you have any experience of the Libra shovel that the Implementations people sell? They say that some people find it easier to use than the ordinary spade and wondered if you’d tried it. They are quite expensive and I’d hate to get the wrong one! Thanks.