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11th April 2018 at 10:00 am #46214
Tris -out of interest did you sow in KD seed compost? I only ask as I sow all my maincrop onions, shallots and leeks in MPC as they seem to do better in that. I have never tried onions in my KD so I do not know if that is an issue…..
Salad onions do fine in KD seed compost……
11th April 2018 at 10:30 am #46215Hi Rhys, it’s Klassman – bright green label, bio-substrate. As mentioned, the Hytechs are through well, same compost, in fact same module tray. Used this for the last two years with great success. It must be the seed. Thanks though, and I’m glad I hedged my bets by going with a packet of Hytech; at least I have some onions on their way!
11th April 2018 at 11:25 am #46217Good to hear you have some onions through Tris. I have hedged my bets with some Ailsa Craig and Red Baron seeds sown on Monday as my Sturon sets may have a dodgy infection which could be White Rot. As 120 of 156 have now fired, I guess I will bin the suspect sets and watch the others carefully before setting out in late April.
The aim was to avoid the allium leaf miner season but now my trust in sets is somewhat jaundiced……
11th April 2018 at 4:04 pm #46223Bummer that Rhys, and you are right to be cautious of planting out anything that may spread white rot across your plot; it’s a real nuisance. My concern now is onion mildew! Not such an easy crop onions, after all! Saw Monty D on a prog in France a couple of years back he visited a family that have grown onions on the same soil for over a century, every year. No white rot it seemed…how come?! Drier climate possibly..
11th April 2018 at 8:59 pm #46225Tris, yes email with photo of comparison
12th April 2018 at 7:19 am #46227Thanks Charles, it’s on the TDL.
12th April 2018 at 8:05 pm #46232Hi Folks,
Just to add to the corporate body of information my Kings Boltardy (fresh this year) worked fine!
Interestingly, I did a tray of Kings Boldor F1 as well. It was a large tray which hung over the windowcill in an relatively unheated room in the house a fortnight ago. The part of the tray overhanging the windowcill (getting heat from the radiator) was fine, but those on the windowcill never showed even 3 weeks hence. Just mentioned to suggest temperature may be critical for some varieties.
Real Seed varieties were perfect..
BR
Neil Bromley, kent13th April 2018 at 4:52 pm #46241Having already mentioned the total failure of lettuce Mottistone I received another packet from Suttons, these were sown together with lettuce from real seeds. The later have germinated the Mottistone nothing.
I have also failed wth pea Ambassador, again from Suttons, the Heritage peas sown on the same day germinated almost 100%.
I wonder if the wet weather we had in August last year is to blame?
I have treated myself to the seed saving book recommended by real seeds, so I can have a go at producing my own fresh seed, really fed up of spending loads of money for no return.14th April 2018 at 7:32 pm #46260Amanda
God luck with seed saving. I have trying a few. Tomato, chilli, pepper, pea, broad bean, dwarf bean and French bean are dead easy. Onion worked OK but it is a two year cycle. This year I will try lettuce, winter radish.
Space is an issue if you have a small growing space. Pea and bean create good seeds n a pot, but I wonder if there eould be effects if you grew peas 5 years in a row not in the ground.
15th April 2018 at 9:58 am #46308Thank you Rhys, that’s an interesting point about the peas, I suppose as long as they were grown in good compost each year they would still be strong plants producing good viable seed.
I am finding Back garden seed sowing by Sue Strickland a really fascinating book,as well as all the great advice on the real seed company website I am going to give it ago.
At the moment I am licking my wounds, a trip to the allotment yesterday revealed most of my brassicas had been eaten by slugs, and some how the pea weevil got in under the fleece and decimated my pea shoots.
Who said it was the gentle art of gardening? It’s a war going on out there.15th April 2018 at 10:24 am #46310Battling too, Amanda. The slugs have the upper hand. Should have known better than to sow Chinese cabbage. My son donates plastic bottles, for some reason he drinks bottled water!! So now my lettuce, brassicas, beetroot seedlings are all residing under half bottles. It’s a pain taking them off and on but the seedlings are showing some recovery.
Have tried tall plastic collars open at the top, so don’t have to move them till they are too big. Jury is still out on them. Fleecing was disastrous, they had a rave followed by an orgy.Had a morning scavenge and found 37
15th April 2018 at 6:19 pm #46316Thank you so much for that Hazelky, I was feeling very sorry for myself after loosing half my plants, but the vision of masses of slugs having an orgy made me laugh. Perhaps if I put some slug pubs in amongst the cabbages they can then die even happier!
19th April 2018 at 8:17 am #46369Tris
For future reference, you can make depressed indent in compost in module trays and germinate onion seeds really well. I sowed 24 modules Ailsa Craig, 24 modules Red Baron and all have clearly germinated well after 9 days. I will post picture here in a week or so when the seedlings are bigger to show you.
So covering onion seeds is not necessary for good germination.
19th April 2018 at 10:03 pm #46374Thanks for posting this Rhys and a picture would be good if you get chance. Did you keep them covered in a propagator? I imagine the increased humidity aids germination? Cheers, Tris
19th April 2018 at 11:05 pm #46375Actually no Tris, they just stayed indoors uncovered for a week, then they have lived outside in shade now we have heat (29C today!) and have been watered again. I made the indents quite deep so the seeds are probably surrounded in moisture for longer.
Transplanted out my Kelsaes yesterday and they look really healthy. Five days of warm weather should mean good chance to settle in without stress. Also put out 120 Sturon sets after firing them in module trays. 10 rows of 12 each 10-12cm apart, 20cm between rows.
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